Propositon 75, Paycheck Protection and Unions -- Point and
Counterpoint
Recently I published an article on GoArticles.com titled CA
Proposition 75 Paycheck Protection Act, An Analysis. I
posted the same article on my blog
http://www.AsphaltAdventist.Blogspot.com.
I got comments in response to this article on my blog and I
thought it important to post those comments, and my rejoinders
here in GoArticles.com.
Here we go:
1. Anonymous said... There's a big difference between
"opt out" and "opt in" - and you know that. Also, the cases you
cite affect only non-public unions, therefore not
applicable. 11:52 AM
2. Jarrod J. Williamson, Ph.D. said... Both U.S. Supreme
Court cases Abood v. Detroit Board of Education and
Chicago Teachers Union v. Hudson are public
employee unions.
Also, Arnold's website, JoinArnold.com, claims:
Proposition 75, also known as "Paycheck Protection," gives
workers the right to choose whether or not union dues money from
their paychecks should be used for political purposes.
However, the U.S. Supreme Court has already repeatedly decided
this. Both public and private union members and agency fee
payers can opt out anytime they wish. 12:12 PM
3. Anonymous said... They could, but the unions just
lie about their spending, claiming that allowing full time staff
members to work on campaigns on work time is union business, not
campaigning. In most cases anyone who files to opt out will find
themselves intimidated by thugs and only relieved of $2 to 3 a
month in payments. The fraud by the unions in this area is
widespread. The Dems in congress blcoked a plan to allow the DOL
to investigate. 5:24 PM
4. Jarrod J. Williamson, Ph.D. said... First, thank you
for admitting you were wrong about the Supreme Court decisions
only affecting private employee unions. The Court clearly
covered both private and public employee unions.
Second, the Court clearly stipulated that the unions must
account for and prove they did not use union dues for political
purposes against the dissenter's wishes. If someone, anyone,
violates a Supreme Court decision (e.g., "they just lie about
their spending"), it is cause for legal action in the courts.
It is not cause for a lie of a proposition, i.e., Proposition
75.
The Governor's website, JoinArnold.com claims, Proposition
75, also known as "Paycheck Protection," gives workers the
right to choose whether or not union dues money from their
paychecks should be used for political purposes. (Bold
emphasis added.)
This of course is a bald-faced lie, as clearly demonstrated by
the Court decisions.
If the unions allegedly "just lie about their spending" under a
series of U.S. Supreme Court decisions, Proposition 75 won't
change it.
I say this not to give creedence to your claim, but to
demonstrate the facetious nature of you claim.
In addition, you said "in most cases anyone who files to opt out
will find themselves intimdated by thugs and only relieved of $2
to 3 a month in payments."
Because I am a sincere Seventh-Day Adventist, I
completely opted out of the union and was not an agency
fee payer for four years. My "dues" never went to the union, but
went to the American Cancer Society. I never had a "thug" bother
me once.
In addition, your statement above is an admission that we can
already opt out. So why the lie of Prop. 75?
I find it fascinating that the Prop. 75 proponents initially say
Prop. 75 gives workers the right to choose whether or not
union dues money from their paychecks should be used for
political purposes, yet when confronted with the facts, they
change their story completely and their response (like
yours) is invariably an admission that Prop. 75 is a
fraud.
Why don't you just be honest about it and say something like the
following, "We think the unions are really bad things for the
following reaons (reasons listed here) and we want to cripple
the unions. Hence, please vote for the following bill."
Don't you find it a little bit disturbing that you have to lie
and deceive to get your proposition?
It is one thing to believe a lie, it is a whole other thing to
know it's a lie and still try to believe it.
The Apostle Paul commented on this basic idea when he said,
Rom 1:18-23 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven
against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hinder
the truth in unrighteousness; because that which is known of God
is manifest in them; for God manifested it unto them. For the
invisible things of him since the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made,
even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be
without excuse: because that, knowing God, they glorified
him not as God, neither gave thanks; but became vain in their
reasonings, and their senseless heart was darkened. Professing
themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the
glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of
corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed beasts, and
creeping things.
In other words, they knew exactly who God is, and still choose
to worship what they knew to be a lie anyway.
It's one thing to be wrong, it is a whole other thing to be
wrong on purpose! 9:57 PM